Caravan Internet Scams

7 Caravan related Internet scams you should know about

Caravan Internet ScamsUnfortunately, due to the freedom of the Internet and ease of access with the ability to remain anonymous there are a number of heartless, greedy people who don’t mind ripping us honest people off. During my time in the industry I have come across pretty much every scam in the book. I think it is important that anyone who is looking to buy or sell a caravan online be made aware of the commonly used scams that are used to con innocent people into handing over their hard earned cash to these cyber fraudsters.

The key thing to remember, if it seems too good to be true, it usually is.

Use the following list to examine any suspicious messages you have received to spot any patterns in the communication:

Scam number 1 (when selling a caravan)

It all begins with you receiving communication either by email or telephone (normally telephone as this is more convincing) from an individual claiming to be from a finance / loan agency who will tell you that they have details of people who are potentially interested in the caravan you have for sale. They will continue their convincing script by informing you that the interested buyer/s have already conveniently been cleared for credit on your caravan and are ready to buy. Finally, (and here comes the clever bit) after you are getting excited at the possibility of moving your caravan on, they inform you that to put you in touch with the potential buyer/s it will cost you a one off fee of £70 (can vary) payable by credit / debit card over the phone right away. DO NOT PAY! If someone had genuinely gone to the effort of being cleared for credit on your caravan they would contact you themselves.

This scam is designed to deceive you into handing over your card details which can be used by the fraudster at a later date for a larger purchase.

Scam number 2 (when selling a caravan)

The scam begins with the fraudster contacting you by email seeming interested in the caravan you have or sale. They will ask all the right questions and normally request more photos in an attempt to seem genuine. They will agree to purchase the caravan (normally for asking price) and ask you for a home address they can send a cheque to. The buyer will claim that they are buying it and having it shipped overseas and that their shipping agent will collect direct from you at some pre-arranged date in the never existing future. Upon receiving the cheque you will notice that it is for way more than the asking price of your caravan. You will then receive another email from the fraudster telling you they are sorry but there was an accounting error made and that the cheque you received included the money that was supposed to be sent to the shipping agent. They will then proceed to ask you to bank the cheque and electronically wire the over payment to a specified account. As you can imagine, the cheque never clears.

Never release any funds or your caravan until you have received funds that have 100% cleared in your account confirmed by your bank / building society.

Scam number 3 (when buying a caravan)

This scam is operated by offering a deal that simply cannot be refused. You will be joyfully browsing the latest caravans for sale on your favourite caravan advert website when (I will use example names and figures here) the 2008 Swift Conqueror 645 complete with caravan mover, two awnings, satellite system and all the accessories is at the absolute bargain price of £6,000. Not wanting to miss out on the deal of a lifetime you call the crazy seller who has clearly undervalued their possession and ask a few questions about the condition etc. The seller will of course tell you that it is in fantastic condition and that they barely use it and so it has to go. They will also tell you that they have had a lot of interest in the caravan and a few viewings arranged already, BUT, for the tidy sum of £500 (can vary dramatically) payable by credit / debit card over the phone or bank transfer they will reserve it for you.

Need I say, the caravan does not exist. The fraudster simply steals pictures from an old advert and makes up some sales copy and voila! This particular scam will normally earn the fraudster several thousand pounds before they move on to their next scam. As with scam number 1, if you hand your card details out over the phone to these people they will just use them to buy a £900 widescreen TV.

As I mentioned above, if it seems too good to be true, it normally is.

Scam number 4 (when buying a caravan)

As with scam number 3, this is normally advertised as a blindingly cheap deal that you simply cannot miss out on. You contact the seller who will claim to be out of town but assures you that this is not a problem, you can still buy the caravan as the website you are contacting through conveniently offer the service of acting as the middle man. Apparently, the website will invoice you said amount and hold onto the money until you have the chance to view the caravan upon the seller’s return. You will be sent a rather convincing looking invoice from which ever website you are communicating through requesting the agreed price of the caravan. DO NOT PAY! None of the caravan advert websites offer this service.

As before, the caravan does not exist. The bank details you are given to send the money to belong to the fraudster who has done this many times before and will disappear from the face of the earth before you have realised what you have done.

Scam number 5 (when buying a caravan)

You will see a caravan that you are interested in buying while browsing online and decide to contact the seller for more information (again normally a cracking deal to lure you in). When the seller has answered all your questions and you have asked to arrange to view the caravan the seller will tell you that they are fed up with time wasters and that they would like you to prove that you have the money to make such a purchase. They will suggest that you make a transfer of the funds to a friend or family member via Moneygram and to forward the receipt onto them as proof.

The receipt you send contains all the information the fraudster needs to get hold of that money. Be careful.

Scam number 6 (when buying a caravan)

You will see a caravan on eBay at, as always, a bargain price and continue to contact the seller to find out more. Upon agreeing terms etc the seller will suggest that they will deliver the caravan to you once you have sent the agreed price to them by PayPal. Upon transferring the funds to PayPal the fraudster will immediately withdraw the funds and disappear before you have a chance to realise you have been conned and report it to eBay and PayPal.

This seems obvious but the way the fraudster communicates will convince many people to part with their cash before receiving the goods. I would note that eBay and PayPal have become a lot stricter in who they allow to sell and transfer money using their platforms and so this is less common now. However, there are some expert fraudsters out there capable of high-jacking genuine eBay and PayPal accounts and simply changing the information.

Scam number 7 (when renting a caravan)

This is one that as featured in local press. The article told the story of a couple who wanted to treat their two young nephews to their first caravanning holiday. Whilst browsing online they stumbled across a cheap deal to rent a static caravan at a holiday park in Hayle on a free ads website. They proceeded to contact the advertiser who told them that he had had a lot of interest but would secure the booking for the sum of £350. The couple paid the money and travelled 2 hours to the site on the date arranged with the advertiser. To their horror the caravan did not exist and the couple ended up having to fork out a further £400 to stay in a nearby chalet.

The lesson behind this is to only buy from reputable online booking companies (even then with caution) as you would expect to pay for this sort of thing upfront, which is why it did not set off any alarm bells to the couple in the story.

Summary

Please be careful out there everyone! There are a lot of bad people out there who think nothing of robbing others.

Have you had any experiences with any of the above scams? Perhaps you are the victim of a scam and want to let everyone else know your story to help prevent it from happening to anyone else. I would love to hear form you, leave your comment in the box below.

Stay safe online

98 thoughts on “7 Caravan related Internet scams you should know about”

  1. just recently nearly got scammed, saw caravan advertised at a too good to be true price was going to put deposit into escrow 1500 pounds which was to safe guard both parties .
    luckily we saw sense at last minute , both me and my partner were so convinced with the emails sent through to us because we were lead to believe these emails were coming direct from the caravan club. we phoned caravan club up and they told us to beware then we received email from the so called caravan club (scammers) saying all paper work was officially sorted and it would be fine to go ahead with transaction. we called c/ club again and they said it wasn’t them sending us these emails .
    were just so glad we escaped i think we were so lucky but unfortunately i sent my partners driving licence in an email to them , can you let me know if i should contact anyone or who to contact kind regards steve

    1. Hi Steve,

      Thanks for sharing your story. I’m glad you were cautious and decided not to go ahead. It just proves that these scammers are getting more sophisticated now by posing as the Caravan Club.

      If I were you I would get in contact with someone at The Caravan Club and give them a copy of all the emails the scammer sent you, that way they can warn and notify others of the scam. It would also be worth reporting it to the authorities, although they may not be able to do much it is worth a shot – especially as they have a copy of your wife’s license. Identity theft is huge for scammers too and they don’t need much more than a drivers license these days.

      Again, thanks for sharing and I hope everything works out okay for you.

      Josh

    2. Hi Steve,

      Just reading your email as I am looking to get some more information about caravan scams and it sounds remarkably similar to one which I believe is trying to be pulled on us at the moment! One of those that sounds too good to be true but you just think you will check it out just on the off chance but you still are conscious it sounds too good so you do a bit more homework!
      Caravan has been advertised on Caravan Club site and owners have allegedly been messed about by a previous potential purchasers so want to go down the route of escrow and again deposit of half the price of the van. The owners have even sent copies of their passports on email to be apparently proving who they are but still havent answered all my questions or provided any actual proof of ownership which I am finding very strange. They are posing to be French with the caravan being in France and them due to bring it over to the UK. The van is a Coachman 4 berth fixed bed.

      Does any of this sound familiar to you?

      Thanks
      Lisa

      1. Hi Lisa,

        Yes, it sounds all too familiar! If in doubt, stay away would be my advice. It is simply not worth it. And as you said, it sounds too good to be true.

        If the seller dodges questions then it is extremely suspicious. I would report the advert to the Caravan Club website and look for another caravan.

        Josh

      2. Am so glad I found you!! Right now I am communicating with a vendor who advertised on caravansforsale and through cc. Guess what – the caravan is in France, and the are willing to knock down the price, pay Escrow fees AND bring to my house this weekend!! But they wont give me any vin or cris details ( their lawyer told them not to divulge this info electronically! ) When I asked for a telephone number they told me they could only speak French and were using google translate for the emails. Hope this post helps someone else not get scammed.

        1. Hi Loretta,

          Thanks for sharing your experience. This is a prime example of a deal that is too good to be true. They are commonly vague and evasive of questions as you have explained. Be sure to notify CaravansForSale so that they can investigate.

          Josh

    3. Reread an email offer i had to an ad put on gumtree and a private electric bike website. .. but poor grammar using the email briancox24@hotmail.com asking for courier costs and my name address and telephone number was selling a power assisted tourer bike, thankyou so much for publishing this article .

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    5. Gee I’m lucky I prevaricated about doing a deal from them. took my time thinking about it. Lost money on an apparently cosha deal some years ago Them using false online. Pay Pay documentation

    6. We were not so.lucky. Although we got scammed for $9000 .00, and we’re lucky it wasn’t for more. We unwittingly purchased a Jayco Heritage 2005 Caravan from. sevenstars caravans and eagerly awaited it’s arrival.from Australia A & D Transport which is affiliated with Sevenstars scam and needless to say, there is no such catavan. We rreported the incident to.police but not holding our breath.

  2. I brought a caravan that was advertised on ebay by seller 2..9..2010 paid in cash although reluctant to buy due to being September and would have to pay to store it until the following year so the seller offered me free undercover storage at Foxmoor Business Park Wellington but I said I wont require it until at least May so I though nothing of it as I had no access to the keycard entry that it would be safe until the time we wanted it, so a week before we wanted it I called them, they often advertise 3 caravans a week via ebay but they had no recollection of it until I explained more, after all I had all the keys and the paperwork, they then said sorry but we had a break in and lost all paper work so lost my number and his brother had apparently sold it, I do wonder how they got into it, i have the National Caravan Council Certificate, I dont know if the next step is to report it as theft to the police, so far I have only got £200 returned this week out of £995, this is clearly theft, I have all phone conversations recorded and the £200 bank transfer proof.

    The caravan was an ABI JUBILEE ENVOY MK3, SERIAL NO 465117A, CERTIFICATE NUMBER 131480.

    Would much appreciate peoples advice on this.

    1. Hi Sean,

      Thanks for sharing your story. I feel for you being in this situation.

      A couple questions:
      Did the seller give you a receipt for your purchase?
      Has the seller agreed to refund you in full? If so, do you have proof of this?

      If this happened back in 2010 then time is running out for anything to be done about it – I would advise contacting your local CAB (Citizens Advice Bureau) for some proper free advice.

      All in all, whatever this is classed it certainly cannot be legal.

      Good Luck. Lets us know how you get on with it.

      Regards,

      Josh

      1. No sorry this happened only last year being 2012, the seller has offered to pay me back(conversations recorded) but payments still hundreds of pounds short of full refund.
        Yes I have all conversations recorded, they admit it in full, plus a couple of text messages of money paid.
        I also have a receipt but the signature is just purely a scribble as no name printed, I now know the seller to be Sarah Small. when and if I find the Devon address I can the proceed to a small claims court if not wishing to go down the theft route, although someone may be able to find the address.

        Regards, Sean.

  3. Great Website Josh. Full of good info and I have been recommending it to many of my customers.

    I own motorimports.co.uk we are one of the biggest exporters of caravans to New Zealand. You would not believe how many scam caravans are currently on ebay. Like you say the caravan that should be £10,000 advertised for £6000 should be a giveaway but greed takes over peoples basic common sense.

    I have had several customers come to me after losing out to number 6 on your list. They are buying from New Zealand so this service of delivering the caravan to Felixstowe sounds great.

    If I could just offer one or two other pointers based on my experience. Most scam caravans get listed with “London” as the location. Most people from London dont keep their vans there.

    Copy and paste some of the ads text into google you may find its been listed before. You may even find the original caravan advertisement from the actual people selling it(at twice the price of course) I use a text check website called plagiarisma.net which will show you if the ad has been indexed anywhere else on the internet.

    You can copy photographs and do reverse look up on them. There are several sites such as Tin eye which will find the original source of the photo. I recently found a caravan on ebay and all the photographs had been lifted off a caravan enthusiasts blog.

    Best of Luck with your Website

    Jason

    1. Christine Davina Fox

      Hi. We now live in New Zealand and were looking to import a UK van. We saw one we liked. Emailed the seller, the van was sited in ‘London’ and he’d moved to Scotland. He said he’d deliver the van to our address at his expense, for us to check it out (he didn’t read we were in NZ!) We had a friend in the Uk lined up to view it on our behalf. He wouldn’t reveal where the van was, despite us asking on several occasions! He then got desperate and came up with this elaborate plan, involving Pay Pal, in escrow, you name it, he tried it. I emailed him again, he went under the name of ‘Keith Jones’ keithjones@gmail.com and told him if he shipped the van to our address in NZ., at his expensive, we would ‘promise’ to remit the money for the van and the cost of shipping! Obviously, we never heard from him again. We’re Pensioners and every single cent (penny!) counts. Imagine losing a shed load of money to a low-life? Yes, we’re still looking for a van, but have decided to buy locally! Kindest regards to you and keep safe.

  4. Hi Jason,

    Thanks for recommending the site! I’m just glad that the information is actually useful to people.

    That is a really great tip you mentioned in your comment regarding the tool to lookup duplicate text on the web, I will add that to the post and credit you for the idea!

    I noticed you linking to the blog and caravanvindecoder.com, I appreciate it.

    Do you have any suggestions on things I can write about in the near future? Maybe answer some of the most commen questions that your customers ask you.

    Thanks for stopping by.

    Josh

  5. Hi, I have just lost £500 which I paid for the hire of a caravan this August….the caravan was advertised in a well know caravan hire site ,which a friend has used on a few occasions with no problem…as it was a short notice booking I had to book in full , but once my money had been paid all correspondence stopped ..I informed the caravan website who have taken my complaint and the said caravan is no longer advertised on there.. I spoke to the Haven site where the caravan is sited to ask if the caravan had bee booked out to me and it hadn’t .. I had to pay for another caravan which to be fair to Haven they gave me a good deal.. Butntonthis day I still haven’t been able to get anywhere with the owner about a refund.. I found his address and sent a registered letter to him asking for a refund last week but still nothing … Would the police be able to do anything I have kept all text messages and a copy of letter sent to him..the caravan website have said they will cooperate if police contact them and so will Haven ..but I’m trying to be fair and give the guy a chance as at the time there was a death in his family…..but saying that when we were on holiday we found the said caravan and it was let to another family. ….. What do I do ???

    1. Hi Yvonne,

      Sorry to hear that you have experienced this problem. If I were you I would contact the CAB (Citizens Advice Bureau) and find out exactly where you stand in this scenario.

      I hope you manage to get it sorted – sorry I can’t personally be of more help to you.

      Good luck,

      Josh

  6. Yesterday, we made an enquiry about a caravan we had seen through Caravan Autotrader. It was a bargain price so we asked the seller for more photos to see if there was something wrong with the caravan. we received the same photos as in the original advert and a huge description of all the extras that came with it. the seller was relocating to Sweden but caravan was advertised from Glasgow.
    My husband was visiting Scotland this weekend so decided it was worth a look. we emailed seller to arrange viewing and he sent us a clearly scripted email advising that as he was relocating it was being held by an escrow company who would take a deposit from us and deliver caravan to our address where we could hold it for 3 days and then decide to accept or reject it.
    Obviously we declined this arrangement and have not heard from seller since. just wanted to warn people about the use of Escrow companies. I should imagine the van probably did not exist and our deposit would have disappeared (worse still they would have had our full card payment details over phone and our names / addresses from delivery details) Worrying !

    1. I got scammed for £3,000 just few months back add on gumtree sterling eccles lux model escrow was the “FUND HOLING COMPANY” and just 2 weeks ago the same add and pics were back on gumtree I have reported to action fraud UK and cad plus the GENUINE escrow company “which have Fbi involved over in the United States but I won’t hold my breath to see any of my money again….

  7. Myself and several others have just been scammed for 50 quid deposit for a caravan being let by cara stubbs or cara Louise Davies as she also goes by. The caravan is advertised as in Blackpool once the deposit is paid and you begin asking for details she then blocks you!!!

    1. Hi

      Where abouts was this. We have been scammed by someone matching this name but not on a caravan. Just wondered if it was the same area as we are trying to get out money back.

      Thanks

      1. Hi Claire,
        We have been scammed by a supposed caravan owner parted with lots of money to a Gregory Declan payment through what seemed to be Amazon , but Amazon says it’s a scam and not responsible. Caravan did not arrive today as promised . How are you getting on. It feels horrible doesn’t it, kind regards Dawn and Lyle

        1. Dear Dawn,

          My name is Elspeth and I am an Assistant Producer for a television company called Wild Pictures (www.wildpictures.co.uk). Wild Pictures specialises in producing high quality factual programmes for all the major UK and international broadcasters. I’ve been reading your comments on How2Caravan in regard to and I’m very sorry to hear you have been a victim of fraud.

          The reason that I am contacting you is that we are currently making a documentary for ITV 1 following the London Regional Fraud Team conducting an investigation into this type of E-bay/Amazon/fake car scam.

          As part of our documentary we are really hoping to speak to victims to help build a picture of the impact fraud has on individuals like yourself, your families and your business. At this stage, Wild Pictures are seeking only a preliminary background chat. The information passed on would be treated as entirely confidential and would not constitute an agreement to be filmed or participate in the series.

          We fully understand that this can be difficult to talk about, but would appreciate the opportunity to speak to you. We strongly believe that victim testimony can be incredibly important in raising public awareness and therefore hopefully preventing others from being targeted. We want our films to illustrate the human cost of what is often wrongly described as a ‘victimless crime’.

          If you are prepared to talk to us on an off- the- record basis, please call me on 0203 227 4938 or email elspeth@wildpictures.co.uk

          Many thanks in advance for your time on this matter. If you are happy to speak with us, we look forward to hearing from you.

          Kind Regards
          Elspeth Fisher

      1. Dear Anon,
        My name is Elspeth and I am an Assistant Producer for a television company called Wild Pictures (www.wildpictures.co.uk). Wild Pictures specialises in producing high quality factual programmes for all the major UK and international broadcasters. I’ve been reading your comments on How2Caravan in regard to and I’m very sorry to hear you have been a victim of fraud.
        The reason that I am contacting you is that we are currently making a documentary for ITV 1 following the London Regional Fraud Team conducting an investigation into this type of E-bay/Amazon/fake car scam.
        As part of our documentary we are really hoping to speak to victims to help build a picture of the impact fraud has on individuals like yourself, your families and your business. At this stage, Wild Pictures are seeking only a preliminary background chat. The information passed on would be treated as entirely confidential and would not constitute an agreement to be filmed or participate in the series.
        We fully understand that this can be difficult to talk about, but would appreciate the opportunity to speak to you. We strongly believe that victim testimony can be incredibly important in raising public awareness and therefore hopefully preventing others from being targeted. We want our films to illustrate the human cost of what is often wrongly described as a ‘victimless crime’.
        If you are prepared to talk to us on an off- the- record basis, please call me on 0203 227 4938 or email elspeth@wildpictures.co.uk
        Many thanks in advance for your time on this matter. If you are happy to speak with us, we look forward to hearing from you.
        Kind Regards
        Elspeth Fisher

  8. Scammed by someone claiming to have a caravan at Kinkel Braes St Andrews,caravan C 19. Scammer used the name Amanda Cottam,.i asked them to get Abbeyfield the owners of the site to confirm authenticity,lo and behold I received said e-mail only to find out later the scammer had sent it themselves.,their bank a/c is a nationwide a/c sort code 07-02-46 BEWARE.

    1. i too have received emails from an Amanda cottam, action fraud aware same sort code, for a Skegness caravan, they also used a fake butlins email address too, I have been scammed initially by a jb caravans, through a buying and selling site he/she posed as “jake” then “Amanda” through! report to action fraud asap

      1. Keep sharing this persons details and write to the Nationwide Banks head office where they have their pre-paid scam account-request your money back as an act of good faith-hopefully this person will be caught.

        1. def!! but posing as Amanda Cottom, everyone that comes across these, or jb caravans sort code 204112, Barclays bank, (they are aware) pls contact action fraud online

  9. I exactly the same scam as happened to Yvonne(Sept2013) it too involved a haven caravan park at Cayton Bay. I’d like to know from Yvonne who it was cos if it same person then it would be a bog time scam and I’m police would pursue.

  10. Hi Josh, Unfortunately I have recently been scammed! I have never let my guard down before and trusted this person. I was viewing caravans on ebay and bidding for about a month, I finally found one I quite liked and all the photos looked really good. I was the highest bidder and I decided to phone the guy, he said I could have the caravan and he would deliver it as well. He wanted payment through paypal using the (FRIEND) method. Yes I now know I was stupid. I paid using my visa card thinking I would be safe. The caravan was delivered but on viewing, it was completely rotten and not usable. He did advertise it as spares and repairs, when I questioned him about it he said that was because of insurance purposes and the caravan was usable. Any way, I decided to phone him and he told me to go and f..k myself and hung up. I have spoken to paypal and my visa company and they said they can’t do anything about it as there is no proof of purchase and no receipt A hard lesson learned. Sophie..

    1. Hi Sophie,

      Thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear about your experience.

      You bring up a point regarding PayPal payments… Anyone paying for goods through PayPal you must ensure you select the option “Goods and services” when it asks you what you are paying for rather than the “Family and Friends” option. Scammers will ask you to pay “Family and Friends” to avoid the fees, but the real reason is that there is no buyer protection offered through PayPal using this method. If the seller insists on this method, simply offer to cover the fees by adding an additional sum to the balance.

      Paypal’s fees are currently 3.4% plus £0.20 per transaction (to receive money). The few extra quid it costs you could be worth it.

      Again, thanks for sharing Sophie.

      Josh

      1. Hi josh, I realise this is an old page if you are still involved can you offer any advice….?
        I’m in the middle of number 6 scam!
        The guy says he’s moving away so doesn’t have much time, he will pay for transporting the caravan to us and if we are happy when we see it we pay him by PayPal.
        He hasn’t asked for a deposit yet but iv been asking to see the cris number and he’s got all the excuses under the sun!
        Is there any way to catch the little bugger?

  11. We are trying to sell our Sprite Major 6 through Autotrader and have received the e-mail below. To me it seems very close to Scam Nr 2 above. Would you agree?;

    “Hello,
    I am okay with the Terms and Condition of sale as seen on the advert including Your Final asking Price as Stated.
    I have gone through the content of the advert once again am very satisfy.
    Payment will be made out via a Cheque which will be issue to you for the payment and pick up will be arrange after the Cheque is Fully Cleared by your Bank.
    I will not be able to come over to view it because im always busy at work but i believe that all the details of the advert are right and will want update about the Service History. You don’t have to worry yourself about the shipment, My Shipper will take care of pick up as soon as you confirm the payment is Cleared by your Bank. let me know if there is any other miscellaneous payment like,the tax charges, etc that will be added to it.
    Transportation and maintenance cost will be added to the Total amount that will be issued on the Cheque. it will be used By My shipper who will be coming for the Pick Up at your location after your bank confirms cash available for use.
    My shipper is the one that will act on my behalf regards the documentation of the change of ownership so any signation will be sign by my shipper pick up and other all necessary detail information will be fill by shipper so don’t worry yourself about the change of ownership documentation will be taken care by my shipper.
    Get Back to me with information listed below in order to make out the Cheque and payment will be issued and send from Kent via first class Mail
    Name to Be Write on The Cheque
    Address To Send the Cheque To so you receive and get it Deposited in your bank.
    Your Phone Numbers.
    The cheque will be issued and send from Kent via first class mail.
    Regards,
    Cole”

    Would value your advice please

    Many thanks

    Andy

      1. Thankyou Josh – it didn’t feel right (or read correctly) and its great to have your view back so quickly. Thank you ever so much.

        Andy

  12. seems all so clear now after reading this !! found a great deal on ebay and put it on my watch list and ask seller if I can have a viewing . one day later its gone from ebay and I think oh well some lucky person snapped that up ,, then low and behold the seller txts me (must have got my mobile number from ebay) and says other buyer fell through am I still interested ,,sure “!! I then get the cock and bull story about them working in another part of the country but they will send me out eBay’s 5-7 day money back policy and deliver the caravan to a place of my choice and payment will be done through paypal for safety ,,im thinking oh well im covered here ….
    fake paypal email received urging me to pay directly to sellers bank acc but still covered .
    fake ebay mail received saying im covered by the 5-7 day money back guarantee.
    as you can guess well and truly ripped off and 3.5k out of pocket ..I really cant express how good these people are at doing this and just to anyone out there just to be very careful ,,like the saying goes “if its to good to be true then it probably is” . My wife and children are absolutely torn apart by whats happen and the dreams of the good times we have promised the kids have just been torn apart ,,, I would seriously pay good money to have this person hurt in so many ways ,, just devasted about the whole thing !

  13. Hi Josh, thank you so much for these posts. Please see below, I will be interested to see if I get any response!

    Dear Claire

    Thanks for your prompt response. I am sure you are a genuine seller but you may be aware that there are many internet scams at the moment where bogus people ask buyers to part with money prior to seeing the caravan to secure etc. Usually the van is at a very good price and the sellers telephone number doesn’t work, and they say they are out of town right now. It may well just be a coincidence but unfortunately these very conditions do apply to the circumstances of your sale which I am sure you can understand is of concern.

    I say this just to be open with you, however, if this is a genuine sale – no doubt you will be thankful for my openness and in no way be offended. I hope, at least in part this demonstrates my intent and look forward to your response.

    Blessings

    Kind regards

    Craig Andrew Walford

    Hello,

    I appreciate your intent of buying our caravan . The caravan stands in perfect condition and it is CRIS registered.Paint is good ,no damp , no dings or dents .We also are both non smokers .
    Our final price is 4000 GBP.
    We bought the caravan from UK when we was in a holiday in Scotland.
    The reason for selling it now is that we are both retired and we love spending our time traveling around the world by plane, so a caravan is no more useful for us.
    We are currently in Avignon,France but if you are really interested to buy our caravan we are ready to come to UK at the end of the next week and you can take a look . Where do you live?
    Look forward to hearing from you.
    Thanks

    Bruno and Claire Lizzim

  14. Just had the exact same scam from same people as previous, 2nd one this week, will probably just go to a dealer now, sick of wasting time on classifieds to have these con artists waste my timw, I have reported to action fraud, does anything ever come of this?

    1. Had exactly the same email, offering to bring the caravan over from France this coming Saurday, thank you for these posts, you have saved me a lot of time & money and I will go to a dealer now. The same caravan in the dealer is offered @£14,000 they were offering for £4500!!

  15. I have just been made aware of the photos for my caravan that I am currently selling appearing in other places, offering the caravan at half the price I am asking. The ‘sellers’ have replied to an e=-mail from a prospective buyer (who alerted me to this) stating that they are currently in France and the caravan is in Somerset. The description of the caravan has been lifted out of my advert also. The phone number attached to the scam advert is unobtainable. The ‘sellers’ give the names Bruno and Claire Lizzim. Have you come across these people before?

  16. I am currently trying to sell my caravan (genuinely and it does exist). I have been contacted by a scammer, but this time he wants to pay me via paypal. I was wondering how he might intend to rip me off if he has transferred money to my Paypal account.
    These are the contacts I have had.
    from 07624803049 (Isle of man apparently and well known on Scamdex site.
    What’s the lowest price of your caravan? Plz email thru (aaronthomus90@gmail.com) email only tnx.
    I did email him, then received:

    Thanks mate for your details,the asking price & conditions is ok
    l’m buying it for my son as a gift ,I won’t be able to Inspect due to
    the nature of my work overseas, would ‘ve love to call in person
    but satellite server has been down which restrict calls,l’m presently
    working on offshore as a petroleum engineering.
    Regarding your payment, Plz get back to me with your paypal
    details in order for me to make payment to you cos that my only
    method of payment, my courier will contact you for pick it up and
    deliver it in my place after payment has been made to you.

    Would appreciate if you can email me any pictures of it (if available)
    Plz send PayPal details for me to send money to you ASAP.

    I just want to flag up this particular scam but I am intrigued as to how it would have panned out if he had transferred anymoney to my paypal. Does anyone have experience of this?

    1. i don’t know how it works but i have had 2 messages from different people saying the exact same thing for my scooter definitely a scam

  17. I’m trying to sell my van. Today I had a text from an un-contactable number asking me to confirm the price by email to lindacox@outlook.com. The email that came back was as follows:

    “Sounds good, I’m just asking about it to make sure its in good condition,so can you assure me i will not be disappointed? also no shipment involved as i have a mover that will come for it as soon as the money clears in your account .I’m okay with the price, do you have a verified PayPal account?”

    My reply:

    Apologies if you are legit but the methods you describe sound too much like a scam.

    “To convince me otherwise you would need to provide me with proper contact details, be prepared to view the van in person and be prepared to pay in cash or by direct funds transfer.”

    Their reply:

    “I would have loved to pay in cash but due to my present location and ionly have a paypal attached to my account. Its reliable and easy to use PayPal. I insisted on PayPal because i don’t have access to my bank account online as i don’t have internet banking, but i can pay from my PayPal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it. You can get the setup registration http://www.paypal.com. and email me your PayPal email account.”

    My reply:

    “Sorry, still sounds like a scam.

    What is your address and land line number?”

    Since then silence…beware “Linda Cox”!

    1. We have used them too. It’s a scam. Just found out today, if you email me your details, I, contacting the police and watchdog.

  18. Hi I’ve just been scammed for £4700 by someone selling a challenger Swift 565 – they asked me to pay via PayPal international holding account which would be safeguarding for us both which I’ve since found out doesn’t exist despite the person eBay and PayPal official logo headed emails. Low and behold they took my money, no caravan and there’s nothing I can do to get my money back. I’m gutted as this was my savings. I notified the police, eBay fraud and financial ombudsman but there’s nothing I can do to get my money back. Surely there’s something that can be done to stop these thieves ?? Any advice on what I can do to try getting the money back would really be welcomed?? Angela

    1. Dear Dawn,

      My name is Elspeth and I am an Assistant Producer for a television company called Wild Pictures (www.wildpictures.co.uk). Wild Pictures specialises in producing high quality factual programmes for all the major UK and international broadcasters. I’ve been reading your comments on How2Caravan in regard to and I’m very sorry to hear you have been a victim of fraud.

      The reason that I am contacting you is that we are currently making a documentary for ITV 1 following the London Regional Fraud Team conducting an investigation into this type of E-bay/Amazon/fake car scam.

      As part of our documentary we are really hoping to speak to victims to help build a picture of the impact fraud has on individuals like yourself, your families and your business. At this stage, Wild Pictures are seeking only a preliminary background chat. The information passed on would be treated as entirely confidential and would not constitute an agreement to be filmed or participate in the series.

      We fully understand that this can be difficult to talk about, but would appreciate the opportunity to speak to you. We strongly believe that victim testimony can be incredibly important in raising public awareness and therefore hopefully preventing others from being targeted. We want our films to illustrate the human cost of what is often wrongly described as a ‘victimless crime’.

      If you are prepared to talk to us on an off- the- record basis, please call me on 0203 227 4938 or email elspeth@wildpictures.co.uk

      Many thanks in advance for your time on this matter. If you are happy to speak with us, we look forward to hearing from you.

      Kind Regards
      Elspeth Fisher

  19. Hi
    I was interested in a caravan on site bided 2012 Bailey I received email I had got and would accept 6000 this sounds unreliable. , and to pay though PayPal . I questioned it as asked if proof of purchase and Registeration of it could be sent . Emails back and fourth I was told can’t send information like this ebay had contacted her to policy’s ner to give Registeration of any vehicle . She told me she would have it delivered and all document would be there and seven days for full refund.i then sent I would pay cash on delivery of van once seen and checked out Registeration . I did say that this nothing against yourself I need to protect my interest. I then said if I transfer 1.000 and rest on delivery ,I asked for the plate no just to check she said she would pay for delivery at her cost prior. To this email sent I am now waiting a response , other emails were sent straight away I think this could be a scam a twin axle 2012 is worth about 11.000

  20. Many thanks for sharing this, there really are some shameful people about. Reading up on your tips will make me more wary in the future; it is sad when you really have to learn to distrust everyone

      1. Hi Josh, just found your site AFTER realising i was being scammed on the purchase of another caravan. The scam is the same as the rest, the van is abroad but will be brought to view once money is payed to an Ebay account. Well that was a definite giveaway so we ended the matter.
        I only tell you this because there is a tool on all computers that will help to establish if a sale is remotely suspect, and this is by examining the photo location.
        As you have rightly said in these scams the caravan does not exist, but the picture does, it has usually been copied from another advert so if the original or other copies can be found then the location of the picture is known due to our friend Mr Google.
        In our case the same picture turned up on four separate adverts at different location in the UK. The description of the caravan in each advert was identical to the first.
        So, how to do it…..First load Google chrome, then click on the images icon, a separate page will load with a small camera in the search box, if you click that camera a drop down box appears, find the picture you wish to search for and copy and save it ,drag and drop it into the box, google will then search for all identical images and list them for you, the image search is for exact copies of the search image and will usually show the same seller but different locations around the country.
        If this saves only one person being scammed it is worth a mention.

  21. Celia Tweedie Smith

    We are in process of trying to sell our caravan via Autotrader. Been contacted by a lady via e mail who cant come to see van (she is ‘disabled’) and cant be phoned (‘hearing loss’). Is buying ‘for her cousin’ and will send a ‘courier’ to get the van.
    Wants to pay via PayPal (‘doesn’t have access to cash/bank because disabled’).
    What is going on? How do we check this out?

  22. HI i was interested in a static caravan in France at the middle of 2014, advertised on e-bay. The seller told me that his sister was currently living in it until the end of the season, but I told him that I was only going to use it for a couple of months to do some house hunting in the area, and then sell it on for the following season, so I did not buy it. He kept my number and contacted me again this year late August, again he told me that the caravan was up for sale and still had a few months site fee’s paid until January 2016. His sister had bought another van on the site, so I could take a holiday, if I still wanted it! He said the site was open until November, that the van was fully equiped and he only wanted £1.500 for it.

    He sent photos and it looked realy nice, he said everything worked fine, and that the van had no age restrictions on the site, as long as it was kept in good order. So I sent him the money and booked a ferry ticket from 1st to 30th October, hoping to spend a month there and look around France.

    He told me that the van was only 2hrs drive from St Malo Ferry. I looked at the site on the internet, and it said in big red letters ‘Open from March to November’. So Off I went, with my two little dogs.

    The ferry arrived in France at dinner time, and I set off to drive to Quimper from Saint Malo,believing I would be there in two hours! I eventually got there at 6pm. The site owner was nowhere to be found! An hour and several phone calls later she turned up, to let me through the locked barrier. It was now almost dark, and I was extremely tired.

    She asked me how long I was staying? I told her that I would be staying for the full month of October. Oh no, you can’t she exclaimed….We close the site next week! I was shocked, I pointed out that her website said that the site closed in November, she just shrugged and said she had changed it this year. Then she pointed up a very steep hill and said the van is up there! and walked away.

    I had never had a caravan before, and was left in the dark to fathom out how to switch everything on! Luckilly there was an English couple in the next van who came to my assistance and turned on the water and electric, but the gas boiler refused to ignite, even though the bottle of gas was full. I was too tired to bother, so I dragged all my bedding out of my car and settled down for the night, It was absolutely Pitch black outside, no lighting, and very cold and scary.

    The man who sold me the van had told me that there would be nothing to pay until the following January, however, the next morning the site owner knocked on my door and asked me to come to the office to sign contracts and pay the fee’s? I was puzzled?

    I asked her what fee she wanted and was shocked, She said she wanted the initial payment of 800 euro’s? I pointed out to her that she had already confirmed to me in an email that the fee’s had been paid until January, and that there would be nothing to pay until then! I told her that I did not have 800 euro’s and that I would pay her later!

    I asked her if she would show me how to light the boiler, She said, ‘It is not my problem!. but had a go anyway, and then said she would send her husband up later to have a look. I was three days without gas, no heating, but I had brought a calor gas camping stove with me, so at least I had something to heat my baked beens! There was no TV signal either, The guy next door told me that the sister had moved out because she could not get a signal, and her disabled partner needed a TV! He said ‘you’ve been taken for a ride there haven’t you!

    I told the site owner that unfortunately, the van and the site were nothing like I had expected or been described to me. and that I would be putting the van up for sale as soon as I got back to UK, with an accurate description!

    Oh no, you can’t do that she exclaimed, It is an old van, and if you sign the contract I will let you stay for 5 years, but if you sell it then it must be removed from the site! I will not
    allow you to sell it again! If you do not [pay the site fees by January then you must remove the van…or the van is mine!

    I was glad when the week was over, however, as my ferry ticket was not refundable, I had to pay full fare on another ferry home for myself and the two dogs. I practically frose to death, had nothing decent to eat, and no TV, and, when we got the gas boiler to work and I turned the fire on, I had to hastily turn it off again as I could smell fumes and my dogs eyes were watering. My holiday from hell had cost me at least another £500 on top of what I had expected. But at least I had found out what the site offered! Nothing!

    As soon as I got back I emailed the seller, asking for my money back! I told him that I would advertise the van (correctly) with all its faults, and find him a buyer….but he was not having any of it, he has flatly refused to refund my money, or help me in any way. The site owner will not allow ME to sell the van, but I told the seller that if he told the site owner that the sale to me had fallen through, then she could not stop him re-selling it?
    but he still refuses to assist me. I feel that I have been really mislead into buying this van and I don’t know who is worse….The seller, or the site owner. I have been advised to put in a small claim to the courts to get my money back, but, as the caravan is in France, I don’t know if the same law applies? Any advice would be great….I realy can not aford to lose the money I have paid, and she is threatening to reposses the van if I don’t pay her 800 euro’s! and will not alow me to sell it?!

  23. Just had an attempted scam the same as Paul T and Angela Egan. Looking at motorhomes on eBay and enquired about 2 Carioca’s around £5000 mark through eBay messaging. An hour later the adverts had both been pulled but then I got a text from an unidentified number which came up as ‘Amy’ asking me to email her at office191@btrated.co.uk, and an email from the other ad asking me to contact sales3@servicebt.co.uk Same scenarios, I had several email exchanges with these people about the vans on sale. The last address I had emails from was amy@btrated.co.uk I asked for name & address details of the owner and was told Amy Middleton, Flat 16 Brochtie Court, Broughty Ferry, Dundee DD5 2AB but that I couldn’t view the motorhome due to Amy’s work commitments. I received a very plausible invoices asking for paypal transfer to Barclays Account number: 70292176, Sort code: 20-98-21 Beneficiary Name: Daniel Obiezalski Luckily I realised that the ebay number didn’t match on the ads I had responded to (sellers were shaun22222 and scottmillan) & when I asked for evidence of V5 Cert the scammer had the cheek to say that they were trying to sell it safely and therefore wouldn’t send any details! I had paid for a reg check via Autotrader which came out fine, so be careful, they are clever.

    1. this amy is still operating: today shes on at aymy1@mdapp , 2 days ago it was amy@mdapp etc etc.

      works like this :ridiculously cheap van: send money and she will send the van at her cost, you cant see it cos shes very busy with work and her family circumstances have changed, 7 days and can be returned at her cost if you dont like it and money will be refunded vi a paypal or ebay ( for “your security”) sounds good 😕 look up the van later you will find it gone so you cannot then report it. send the money and thats the last you’ll see of it.

      eBay item number:222257213686
      Seller assumes all responsibility for this list

      1. We are just going through the same thing right now…. So glad we have checked her email out on google as nearly paid Amy!!!! Amy is trying to sell a tractor now….. We emailed reference the Ebay add, then the add was removed, we received a text from a untraceable number asking us to email her. After various emails, Amy is currently working away in N.Ireland, but will deliver the tractor at her own cost if we just send payment… So glad to find out this information first……

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  28. Greetings Josh,

    We are about to visit the UK from Canada and finalize the sale of an older ABI Havana static caravan that we found on Preloved. It is located in Barnhorne Manor Caravan Park in Bexhill on Sea. The owner has been forthcoming with requisite information on the ‘van, and seems genuine, and I have also been in contact with the park manager, who knows the vendor and verifies his story.

    Our problem is that the vendor is unable to ascertain the date of manufacture of the caravan, info that I require for insurance cover. He did send along the serial number, but the format does not match that described in your excellent online article about decoding caravan VINs. I suspect that it is simply a pre-1992 unit, and have no real issues with that if it checks out in a live inspection – but I wonder if you could help us decipher this number:

    “We managed to find a serial number for you so details as follows;
    Caravan: ABI Caravan Limited
    Model: Havana 28
    Caravan Serial number: AB 008266623646
    We could not find a date of manufacture on the Serial Plate unfortunately.”

    Any assistance you could offer would be greatly appreciated. We are hopeful that we will not be adding another scam story to your frightening list!!

    With thanks in advance and best regards
    Dave Brown
    Niagara on the Lake, Ontario, Canada

    P.S. I put together a wee overview page on the ‘van to share with friends, using photos supplied by the vendor. The page is here:

    http://www.guidetags.com/mindmaps/explore/mind-maps/mindmaps-bisc-digital-humanities-field-school-2015/1177-2000-abi-havana-two-bedroom-static-caravan

  29. Hi I had recently paid a deposit to a lady named ms Sharon Hamilton hamilton from bishop briggs. This was 6 weeks ago and ever since the lady has been ignoring my calls, so as a result of this ladies ignorance, iv now had to pay. For. Another. Holiday. At double. The. Price. As it is only. A week. Away and I could’t. Let my two kids down. However I have made. Appropriate. Telephone. Calls to Craig tara themselves, who will not give me any information. Or this lady, Therefore. I am very. Disappointed and unhappy. With you staff as my two sick kids. Will not be returning as I will now be going to trading standards

  30. We have lost out on £4200 on a scam to purchase a Motor home from a guy who said he was working at a Barracks in edinburgh and we checked all the details and also asked the banks to see if this was a proper way of doing things which they confirmed as ok, checked that the Vehicle on the DVLA website and was the same van with correct details and when we got no further contact when money was paid we contacted the police in Scotland who moved this to the Police in england as the bank account holding account was based in Kent and we have been told they cant find out anything, This campervan was still recently on webpages for sale it was a Swift Gazelle please make people aware of this we have lost a lot of our hard earned cash and not happy. Dont think we will see this money back Ever!!!!!
    Bridge of Don

    1. Dear Alison,

      My name is Elspeth and I am an Assistant Producer for a television company called Wild Pictures (www.wildpictures.co.uk). Wild Pictures specialises in producing high quality factual programmes for all the major UK and international broadcasters. I’ve been reading your comments on How2Caravan in regard to and I’m very sorry to hear you have been a victim of fraud.

      The reason that I am contacting you is that we are currently making a documentary for ITV 1 following the London Regional Fraud Team conducting an investigation into this type of E-bay/Amazon/fake car scam.

      As part of our documentary we are really hoping to speak to victims to help build a picture of the impact fraud has on individuals like yourself, your families and your business. At this stage, Wild Pictures are seeking only a preliminary background chat. The information passed on would be treated as entirely confidential and would not constitute an agreement to be filmed or participate in the series.

      We fully understand that this can be difficult to talk about, but would appreciate the opportunity to speak to you. We strongly believe that victim testimony can be incredibly important in raising public awareness and therefore hopefully preventing others from being targeted. We want our films to illustrate the human cost of what is often wrongly described as a ‘victimless crime’.

      If you are prepared to talk to us on an off- the- record basis, please call me on 0203 227 4938 or email elspeth@wildpictures.co.uk

      Many thanks in advance for your time on this matter. If you are happy to speak with us, we look forward to hearing from you.

      Kind Regards
      Elspeth Fisher

  31. They’re still at it!!!!!!!
    They tried to sell me a Swift Kontiki Motorhome yesterday, advertised on Ebay and asked me to pay through PayPal . They would delivery it and I would have a 7 days to decide.
    Beware this Email address : amy@mdapp.co.uk
    It is good you have built this Page.
    Well done !!!!!
    Richard.

  32. Enquired about a motorhome (really low priced for year). Got message from ebay saying no longer available. Lo and behold then received txt from amy155@mdapp.co.uk asking if still interested in vehicle. Having never of any or mdapp I googled and was directed here. Another one I’ve seen is a danielc. Also selling van at ridiculous low price

  33. Hi
    For information, briancox242@gmail.com is still active, go this email reply recently to my Autotrader ad.:

    ‘I am OK with the Terms and Conditions of sale as seen on the content
    of the advert include your Final asking price of £26 450 + VAT so will
    want to go ahead with the Purchase

    My Private Carrier who is base in London will take care of
    Documentation of the change of ownership and pick up as soon as cheque
    is Cleared by your Bank..

    The Transportation cost and your asking price will be added together
    to the Total amount on the Cheque.My Carrier will be coming for the
    Pick Up at your location after your bank confirm clearance of the
    cheque and cash available for use.

    It will be Shipped To Spain and other miscellaneous across the border
    will be taken care by my carrier.I want you to get back to with all
    the necessary information listed below in order to make out the Cheque

    Name to write on Cheque
    Address To Send the Cheque.
    Mobile Phone Number.

    The cheque will be issued and send from North London Tomorrow Morning.

    I will expect your reply as soon as possible. That will enable me to
    issue the payment immediately.

    Regards,
    Brian’

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  35. Malcolm Cachia

    Hi Josh – Are you aware of any insurance scams relating to claims resulting from detachment of ithe caravan whilst being towed? Thanks, Malcolm

  36. Has anyone heard of an escrow company called Safeway.org? I am interested in purchasing a caravan but am not in a position to view beforehand as it is too far away. The seller has assured me that if I pay the money to Safeway.org, she will not receive any funds until I have received and agreed to keep the caravan. Am I being naïve?
    Thanks Carla

    1. Hi Carla,

      I’ve personally never heard of it.

      I would walk away from it. Try and buy where you can view the caravan for yourself.

      Be very, very cautious. Some has clearly peaked your concern since you found yourself looking at this article.

      Good luck.

      Josh

  37. Hi all have been reading your emails. If someone pays for a caravan into your bank account whetherb PayPal or direct internet banking and your bank clears it as funds available, no pending conditions arent you safe to release the van? We are unsure if we are about to be scammed. Thanks

    1. no, Swan, you are not safe. If money was paid via Paypal using a stolen credit card or transfer details from someone else’s bank account then you could find days or weeks later all of a sudden the ‘cleared’ amount has been reversed out of YOUR account by the bank as it was essentially stolen funds. The bank will never let themselves be the ones ‘holding the bag’ of poo at the end of a scam.

      You should ONLY EVER complete a transaction in person and ONLY EVER accept a bank cheque which represent previously cleared funds by their bank. Even then, now a days, I would choose to accept the bank cheque and complete the transaction AT THEIR BANK or AT YOUR BANK so the cheque can be verified immediately while both buyer and seller are present. You used to be able to trust people. Not anymore sadly.

      If someone can’t visit to see the van you are selling, tell them fine but you are not selling it to someone sight unseen as you want them to view, inspect and be happy with the purchase. If they like it then they can return with a bank cheque or cash and you’ll meet at the bank to complete the transaction and give them the keys and paperwork.

      If they can’t or won’t do that, walk away from the ‘buyer’.

      FYI, I’m in Australia and these caravan scams operate there as well !!!! I think some of the scammers are over here on holiday from the UK…

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  39. I have someone willing to bank transfer money into my account and on clearance I should deliver it 100 miles away to his shipper. If the cash has cleared is there still a scam? Thanks Andy

  40. If you see a a caravan advertised on the internet make sure you print a copy off with the full specifications on of what is included. Be aware that sites such as Preloved allow the seller to change the details on the advert as many times as they like and you could find that the specification you saw on the internet changes after your purchase. This means if anything has been removed the advert will be changed to suit.I actually had this happen to me.
    Unfortunately for the seller Preloved keep a copy of all versions of an online advert and confirmed it had been changed after the sale and he got into heaps of trouble.
    When you go to see the caravan and have decided you are going to buy it go round with an ultraviolet pen and mark as may things as you can internally and externally including the battery and motor mover so when you pick it up to take home you will know if anything has been changed.
    I have heard a number of times of items have been changed after the sale. I.e. scratched panel or fridge door, swapped motor mover etc. This could feasibly happen where the seller has more than one second hand caravan for sale.
    If you do find any irregularities make sure you challenge the seller first and then report to trading standards.

    Thankfully these things are not rife in the industry but there are some very dodgy people out there

  41. JOHN COLIN WOODLAND

    IN AUGUST WE BOUGHT A WEEK HOLIDAY AT BERWICK CARAVAN PARK FROM A LADY IN WHITBURN WHO STATED SHE’D BOUGHT A HOLIDAY THEN COULDN’T GO AS HER DAUGHTER HAD TO GO TO HOSPITAL AT THE TIME,
    IN REALITY SHE HAD BEEN SCAMMED AND PASSED ON THE PROBLEM
    THE POLICE SAY AS IT’S FIRST OFFENCE THY WILL NOT TAKE ANY ACTION SO BEWARE BEWARE AS THE POLICE WILL NOT HELP

  42. margaret mcgowan

    just bought a motorhome for 4200 got it checked today and nor road worthy was a private sale got in touch with man that sold it to us wont give money back .what can I do.were pensioners

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  45. We have just been scammed. We saw a too good to be true priced van in Fife, the woman used the ” well we have another person interested” bribe for 250 to reserve the van. She said she gave us her word that it would be held for us. When my husband arrived is was soaking wet at the rear, impossible for the seller not to know. my husband had travelled over 3 hours there with our babies . The woman is now not returning our messages and not only put our children through an emotional rollercoaster but they also have cost us a fortune.

  46. Just dodged the caravan scam I guess Covid 19 makes it even easier to explain away being unable to travel to view,
    Mine was Scam 3 and 4 but sent me an invoice from paypal and a copy of his or a passport
    Luckily my cyber cyber cynicism kicked in and i checked where the Paypal emails had originated and came up with a Russian server
    Reported it to Paypal and Ebay but still feel a proper Numpty for letting it get that far

    As you say if it Looks too good ten it probably is too good to be true

    Glad I found your pages its reassuring to know it is was a scam

  47. jamiemacgregor29@icloud.com

    Could you contact me ASAP please. Need advise! Someone using photos of my van to hire out and scam pleolple.

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  49. BRIAN COX
    briancox242@gmail.com
    Mon, 8 Mar, 23:13 (17 hours ago)
    to me

    Hello,

    I am OK with the Terms and Conditions of sale as seen on the content of the
    advert include your Final asking price of £15995 so will want to go ahead
    with the Purchase

    My Private Carrier who is base in London will take care of Documentation of
    the change of ownership and pick up as soon as cheque is Cleared by your
    Bank..

    The Transportation cost and your asking price will be added together to the
    Total amount on the Cheque.My Carrier will be coming for the Pick Up at your
    location after your bank confirm clearance of the cheque and cash available
    for use.

    It will be Shipped To Spain and other miscellaneous across the border will
    be taken care by my carrier.I want you to get back to with all the necessary
    information listed below in order to make out the Cheque

    Name to write on Cheque
    Address To Send the Cheque.
    Mobile Phone Number.

    The cheque will be issued and send from North London Tomorrow Morning.

    I will expect your reply as soon as possible. That will enable me to issue
    the payment immediately.

    Regards,
    Brian

  50. had caravan listed for sale via caravan club on caravans for sale – got a text supposedly from caravans for sale giving an e mail address of someone wishing to buy. I contacted them and they offered full price via bank transfer but could not inspect van due to work issues. Thet then asked for more pics or video. I sent video they then confirmed wished to buy and requested my bank details which i sent.
    Later i suspected something iffy checked out text was not from caravans for sale so contacted them – they said it was a scam – would not get any money but would use my van and prersonal details to “sell on” fraudently. Advised not to contact scammer and they would check and block any future activiry from him if pos.
    I have phone no / e mail address/ name of this scammer which i can give u if necessary.
    Currently sitting on my hands and thinking maybe good idea to change bank account details – what u think????

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